The messiah.
A guy called Michael Travesser claims to be the messiah he as a cult in 0hio. The bible warns us about false prophets and messiahs. This guy gets all these virgins to lie beside him naked claiming this is what god wants, then as his way with them. When god spoke of coming naked to him he did not mean nudity he meant a cleansing and purifying from within yourself nothing to do with being nude.
This guy cracks on that god made him sleep with his sons wife,god never forces any one to do anything he gave us all a free choice, God would not have suggested such a thing.
These people you think are crazy to be with you Michael are afraid of what the big wide world throws at them that is what attracts them to you and your 0cult,they feel safe in your community.
We all like to be in a community of like minded people or those with some thing in common with us, we feel safe, we do not want to face the rest of the world and spoil this dream of a world we are living in where we are loved and understood we know the rest of the world might spoil it. You delude them Michael into a false sense of security.
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The first lie presented was that no one from Strong City ever said the world was going to end on Oct. 31 or on Dec. 15. The narrator made that up. Watch it again and see if I’m right. Secondly, no one at Strong City ever said, desired, or planned to die. We are planning (still) to leave this sorry earth of liars and deceivers. Third lie was the suggestion that Michael had relations with his “daughter-in-law”. Jeff and his wife purposely divorced before the event occurred between Michael and his former daughter in law. The fourth lie was Michael wanted to “have his way with” virgins . The purpose for the “virgins” was to pour out the plagues on the earth. I could give you a list of 30 or 40 deceptions, but it would likely not matter at all, for people love to be lied to.
The film did serve a purpose though. 2000 years ago Christ came to the earth, was misrepresented, tried and crucified. A couple weeks ago, Christ came to your world, was misrepresented, abused and was killed (character assassination). It came to pass in this manner for all men to judge the Christ that God has sent. Those who know God saw His Son, those who don’t saw their own perversions imposed on someone else.
Comment by Terry— 2007/12/26 @ 10:10 AM — (Reply)
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The followers of such a religion or sect.
A system or community of religious worship and ritual.
The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.
A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease.
Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.
The object of such devotion.
An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest.
Comment by Elmers Brother— 2007/12/26 @ 10:35 AM — (Reply)
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It is almost true that we did not see the same film, in that I have seen the story in real life that the film maker attempted to present as fact. Ben Anthony filmed almost 100 hours of interviews. From this, he simply chopped and spliced the film to put his own spin on the events that happened here. Surely you have seen this done with e-mails or blogs. Out of 100 pages of material from a persons diary, one can cut and splice almost any kind of story out of the bits and pieces they chose to use.
Ben came here telling us his style of presentation was to let the people in the film tell their story. What he presented to society was entirely the opposite of what he vowed would happen. Yes, he did most of the talking like a spin doctor weaving his tangled web for the unsuspecting victim. In civilized societies, this is called lying. I have audio files (recordings) of Ben acknowledging we had planned to be here after Oct. 31, yet he claimed we believed it to be doomsday.
Indeed, Michael is a nice warm friendly sort of guy, but he is more than that. He is the Christ which men have been waiting for, for almost 2000 years. He has come with a two edged sword protruding from his mouth and has fire in his eyes. He discerns who are his from those who are the impostors; and slays those who cannot face the reality of his appearing.
In Jesus’ day the Roman soldiers went about telling a lie that the disciples stole Jesus after the resurrection had occurred. This lie was overturned by the testimony of the disciples who knew the real story. In like manner, I am overturning the lie told by those who have crucified the Son of God afresh.
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It must matter Jean, you wrote about it. Did it matter whether Jesus was a common lawbreaker nailed to a tree or the Son of God nailed to a tree? Yes Jean, it matters a whole lot or you wouldn’t bother responding to me.
Quote from Jean - “This program was looked upon as just another form of entertainment to the majority of sensible people nothing more and nothing less. So what are you saying it was Terry and why does it matter to you?”
I would say that if this program was viewed and written about by sensible people, they would have seen through the sham that it was. They would not have written about Michael and those of us who live on this settlement as crazy and deluded. A sensible person might have done a little research about the matter rather than just spouting off the lies that were spun by the press.
The reason this all matters is; just as Jesus came to the earth with a special message and purpose, so Michael has been sent by God with a special message and purpose. Just as those who rejected Jesus, rejected eternal life, so those who reject Michael reject eternal life.
Quote from Jean - “Terry you call Jesus and his followers simpletons yet you follow this man like a simpleton.”
Yes, my point was that those who followed Jesus 2000 years ago looked like simpletons, just as I look today. God has passed over those who think they are wise in their own eyes and given the meek eyes to see, just as he did those many years ago.
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“As surely as I live, says the Sovereign Lord, Sodom and her daughters were never as wicked as you and your daughters. Sodom's sins were pride, laziness with nothing to do, and gluttony; while the poor and needy suffered outside her door.” Ezekiel 16:48-49
BTW, My birth name is Terry Czapiewski. I post elsewhere on the web as TerryCzap; my nickname is Elisha, and that and is how I post on our home page.
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Comment by Jean-sweet pea— 2007/12/30 @ 02:17 AM — (Reply)
not A way, A truth....no one comes to God but by Him. Michael can't be the Messiah.
Comment by Elmers Brother— 2007/12/30 @ 07:48 AM — (Reply)
ahh the original lie...you can be like God...that's what Satan said in the garden
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Comment by terry— 2007/12/31 @ 09:54 AM — (Reply)
Ever think that this man is using you for sex? He actually talked someone into leaving their family!! Since when is leaving your husband and having a physical relationship with another man Biblical?
The marriage between Christ and His Church that the Bible speaks of is a picture used to describe Christ's relationship with the Church consumated when we are in heaven...certainly not here. Duh
Other than his assertion (stated above) the only credential he has is that "God" told him and some people "feel" he is the messiah. Sorry but it just doesn't cut it.
It's quite easy to laugh at someone who when tested against the Bible comes up wanting. There are many false prophets and I'm afraid there are way too many gullible people in this world.
2nd Peter 2:1: But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
Matthew 24:5: For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Matthew 24:24: For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
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Comment by Jean-sweet pea— 2008/01/02 @ 09:58 AM — (Reply)
I do not judge Michael for what he does with his "religious sect," or "cult." The many people there feel comfortable around him and the many members there, so I say leave them be. There are many more problems in the world that deserves far more attention. There is much more deception in the world, from the men and women who lead us in world Governments and in powerful Religious positions.
To many, the times we live in may seem to be signs of the Apocalypse and the Trials and Tribulations that all must face according to the Bible. Many people in the world seem to have a wool pulled so tight over their eyes that they cannot see truth from deception. And the deception runs to the highest levels of world Governments and Religious Sects.
I don't think people should be focusing all their efforts these people who have chosen to believe in Michael Travesser. Do I believe in the man? No, I do not. But I also do not choose to attack him or the people. I do wish people would begin to think for themselves and use self-discernment. But I also respect a person's freedom of choice.
I also do not attack those who criticise those who believe in Michael Travesser, but should you really be attacking them for their beliefs? It would be the same to attack a Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist for their beliefs. I am not telling you what to do, for it would be wrong, I am just offering an objective opinion.
I just seen this story on CNN's Larry King Live and thought I would look more into the story and seen this site. So I am merely offering my opinion. I do not wish to offend anyone by what I said, and if I did then I am truly sorry.
Namaste,
Jessie Bristol
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